A Brother-To-Brother Debate

Recently Ladies and Gents, I spoke of how my brother and I got into a debate on certain things when it comes to “equality“.  Since then, he and I have replied in the comments section and I am going to publish it here as food for thought, for our readers.  Feel free to add to it in the comments area below.

Brian Says:

Well, where do I begin. Firstly, a correction. I never stated that multiracialism doesn’t work. I stated that multiculturalism doesn’t work. I don’t care who someone marries, screws or otherwise, as long as they are both consenting adults.
As for equity, I was referring more to people in general, not necessarily immigrants. I do believe that we need to be careful as to who enters the country but the equity was based in a socio-economic context within our own borders. Unfortunately, our discussion was cut short and the opportunity to iterate that point never culminated.
So much, so little time. I don’t believe for a second that we can all “just get along”. Many cultures have demonstrated this in trying and failing. But this does not just refer to different cultures of different countries, but cultures, such as religion, within cultures. Humans are tribal by nature and under most circumstances we eschew others because of this innate tribalism. From an evolutionary standpoint it makes perfect sense, it has allowed our species to continue and survive by being automatically suspicious of others not like ourselves. Usually it was warranted, as they were either there to kill you or at very least steal your food, women and kids. I am sure way to much can be read into that but I mean it as it stands.
The psychology behind culture and cultural characteristics is much too in-depth to go into here but those differences are not innate and can be altered.
I do believe, and it’s my belief, nothing more, that when one immigrates to another country that assimilation is imperative. If you don’t wish to embrace another countries lifestyle and culture, then stay in your own country. Though there may be reasons one may be forced to migrate, it does not negate assimilation (the word I couldn’t grasp when we were chatting).
Disillusionment is not a word I would use in my instance and I appreciate you highlighting that. In disagreement, perhaps. You and I disagree on a great many things. Some of which we will take to our graves. Our methods are different but oft times we come to similar conclusions … but not always. That “extra mile”, to me, is where I feel you are incorrect on a subject. But you would say the same to me. Sometimes you show evidence to the counter, in which I must then concede, sometimes you don’t. And vice versa.
But inevitably I must say – I am the big brother, so do as you are told – or I’ll punch you in the arm.
To all a good night.
Brian.


Shaun Says:

Yeah, that extra mile I speak of Brian, is that you don’t seem to care if the White Aryan Englishman goes bye bye, whereas I do.

It was something along the lines of 27-28% white on this planet back in the 40’s-50’s and now we are 8%. That is worrying to me and I’m sorry but this whole “evolution” base, being a bailout for white man getting fucked out of existence through both jew control of our countries and the dark races taking advantage of that, (abbo’s & africans as an example) doesn’t cut it for me.

To notion toward a theory ‘of being suspicious toward others not like ourselves’ born out of evolution, is some how helping “our species” continue to exist, (or in this case fail to exist) at this point in time in the argument, (we’re late in the game) is a bit naive in my opinion, given that statistically “our species” is not surviving. Which would, by your logic, signify that evolution has failed White Aryan Man. I call your attention to the 8% again.

There is no commonsense in thinking for a moment, that white man is some how less capable than the 3rd world savages (because of evolution) and henceforth his demise. Take a look around you and tell me what you see. Planes, trains and automobiles and they weren’t designed by niggers.

Whilst I do know that there is a natural drive to continue existing, especially within the Aryan Worlds, (blacks without the white races, don’t try to exist, they just survive, as a wild dog survives… take a look at Sudan Darfur as an example) there has been a consorted effort between the jewish hierarchy and the dark races and whilst these dark races are often not conscious to what they are doing, because of their jewish puppeteers and their lack of intelligence to recognise being manipulated, they sooner rather than later come to know when the system is fighting for them and not us and swiftly take advantage of that.

I placed the words, “our species” in quotes because most people say there is only one species and that’s the human species and this is often where you come from, even though you confuse me at times, because you often clearly identify different races as different humanoids, I think even when you don’t know you’re doing it, which dictates differences between species.

If you take a look at your post, you clearly note us as different species, due to recognising and “being suspicious of our differences”, yet often when we talk, you justify other races being in around us and in our countries (and henceforth furthering our coming non-existence) by hinting toward us all being “the human race”. And I think this is where one of our many disagreements comes in… You believe there is the human race (in a very convoluted fashion) whereas I believe we races are different humanoids, breeds and/or species for some.

Just remember what happened when two breeds of dog were mixed in China centuries ago. The Pekingese was created. Not only does it have a life span of 11 measly years, it has cardiovascular and general breathing problems at all times. And don’t even get me started on the eye socket thing. This is because the people that bred the two animals, to create the Pekingese, totally discounted the different species. Whilst both were part of the Canus family, (quite a distance from Canus Lupus however, (the wolf) which is proof again of what I am saying here) they were different in species.

And remember, for every person that says, “we all bleed red” I say unto you, “so do pigs.” Are you a pig? For that matter, would you fuck a pig? LOL.

This is one thing you and I will never come to agree on. I care too much for my Aryan brothers and sisters to let them fall to oblivion.

Cheers.


Brian breaks down Shaun’s argument in to segments:

I will try my best to answer, but some of what you speak of is not on my agenda and whether I care or not, I pick my battles the same as you. If yours is the “White Aryan Englishman’s” extinction then go for it, I will listen and occasionally discuss it but I have chosen other subjects to pursue with interest and gusto.


“Yeah, that extra mile I speak of Brian, is that you don’t seem to care if the White Aryan Englishman goes bye bye, whereas I do.”


I think I answered that above. It’s simply not one of my points of interest at present.


“It was something along the lines of 27-28% white on this planet back in the 40’s-50’s and now we are 8%. That is worrying to me and I’m sorry but this whole “evolution” base, being a bailout for white man getting fucked out of existence through both jew control of our countries and the dark races taking advantage of that, (abbo’s & africans as an example) doesn’t cut it for me.”


I never said it was a bailout. I simply highlighted why we tend toward being suspicious of others outside of our “tribe”. I have had very long winded discussions about this at times and am incensed by the forced “equality” that we experience in the world and indeed our country but I do see a much larger picture underneath it all; and it may be different to yours.


“To notion toward a theory ‘of being suspicious toward others not like ourselves’ born out of evolution, is some how helping “our species” continue to exist, (or in this case fail to exist) at this point in time in the argument, (we’re late in the game) is a bit naive in my opinion, given that statistically “our species” is not surviving. Which would, by your logic, signify that evolution has failed White Aryan Man. I call your attention to the 8% again.”


Again, I never spoke of the ramifications in the modern world of such an evolutionary trait. I simply stated that we are naturally suspicious and for good reason. However, the ongoing survival of a species in the ancient world is entirely different to that of one in the modern world. We no longer need to look for “tigers” hiding in the scrub, though you feel that other “tigers” are lying in wait. And perhaps you are correct. Again, it is just not my current area of study. But I was speaking about species, not race. And I am sure you will take me to task on this contentious issue but I reiterate that I am not following that line at present so it is not something I feel a need to justify or for that matter follow-up. I am sorry if I will not prolong the discourse in this area at present. Perhaps another time. I really have not formed an opinion on it yet.
Note: I do extend this further down.


“There is no commonsense in thinking for a moment, that white man is some how less capable than the 3rd world savages (because of evolution) and henceforth his demise. Take a look around you and tell me what you see. Planes, trains and automobiles and they weren’t designed by niggers.”


I never mentioned “white man [being] less capable than” anyone. Due to evolution or for any other reason. And I see many things built and designed by many people. That’s all I have to say on that matter.


“Whilst I do know that there is a natural drive to continue existing, especially within the Aryan Worlds, (blacks without the white races, don’t try to exist, they just survive, as a wild dog survives… take a look at Sudan Darfur as an example) there has been a consorted effort between the jewish hierarchy and the dark races and whilst these dark races are often not conscious to what they are doing, because of their jewish puppeteers and their lack of intelligence to recognise being manipulated, they sooner rather than later come to know when the system is fighting for them and not us and swiftly take advantage of that.”


Yes, based on my limited knowledge of the subject, I can agree that there are serious issues occurring in Sudan and obviously there are deep underlying causes. What they are I can only surmise as once again it is not my area of study. Although it may be down the track.


“I placed the words, “our species” in quotes because most people say there is only one species and that’s the human species and this is often where you come from, even though you confuse me at times, because you often clearly identify different races as different humanoids, I think even when you don’t know you’re doing it, which dictates differences between species.  If you take a look at your post, you clearly note us as different species, due to recognising and “being suspicious of our differences”, yet often when we talk, you justify other races being in around us and in our countries (and henceforth furthering our coming non-existence) by hinting toward us all being “the human race”. And I think this is where one of our many disagreements comes in… You believe there is the human race (in a very convoluted fashion) whereas I believe we races are different humanoids, breeds and/or species for some.”


I did touch on this in the above retort. But I will answer your referral to our previous conversations. I, as a researcher and a previous amateur herpetologist notice that there are sub-species which naturally occur within nature. A prime example is the Australian water dragon Intellagama lesuerii. There are two sub-species – the Eastern water dragon (Intellagama lesuerii lesuerii) and the Gippsland water dragon (Intellagama lesuerii howittii). They are similar to look at and to the untrained eye can appear to be one and the same. But they are not. The Gippsland is larger overall, has slightly different colouration etc. They can interbreed, and do so naturally where their geographical ranges overlap, resulting in hybrids. Now it gets icky. I will have to branch off slightly.  An issue I have with the “intellectual community” is this necessity to conform and strive for political correctness. Many a career is built or destroyed based on one’s ability to move within the confines of what is excepted as the status quo and so many choose not to “discuss” some subjects. But when have I ever cared what anyone thinks. There are two issues which can make or break you. Race, never highlight differences between people and most certainly never mention race as a sub-species, and gender equality. We will stick to the issue at hand though.   There are genetic differences between people of different race, though insignificantly small and in the scientific community nobody, that treasures their career or reputation, will discuss it in detail (Any scientist worth his salt will not lie, he will simply not publicly discuss these subjects). They are scientifically and statistically insignificant though and the diversity of genetic variety within the African races themselves is significantly large. Now, sub-species can have small genetic differences, similar to race, or large ones of major significance. Sub-species usually evolve separately due to significantly different geographical environment and climate. Black skin is resistant to the sun’s rays and therefore is better at surviving the harsh African savannahs or Australian outback etc. Though these differences can be interpreted as no more than alleles. Can I get any scientist to go on record and say that “yes, some races could be construed as a separate sub-species”? No. It is taboo! Career suicide! Have they expressed this to me in private? Yes, quite a few have, although they all point out that it’s almost insignificant. My opinion – Humans have evolved in geographically different conditions and have therefore evolved to survive said conditions resulting in minor sub-species. Genetically almost identical but different enough to be classified separately. Still all human none-the-less. Intelligence is a whole other line though and it is another subject that is highly controversial BUT neuroscientists are moving in leaps and bounds in this area and I would hazard to guess that many of the answers will be revealed in our lifetimes. Even the word intelligence is highly subjective. But I have moved on from this subject also and will hold to my original opinion until other evidence comes to the fore.


“Just remember what happened when two breeds of dog were mixed in China centuries ago. The Pekingese was created. Not only does it have a life span of 11 measly years, it has cardiovascular and general breathing problems at all times. And don’t even get me started on the eye socket thing. This is because the people that bred the two animals, to create the Pekingese, totally discounted the different species. Whilst both were part of the Canus family, (quite a distance from Canus Lupus however, (the wolf) which is proof again of what I am saying here) they were different in species.”


I can only reiterate my previous paragraph. Within dogs the differences are only at the allele level. The same as humans, but it does reinforce my theory because the scientific name for the common dog is Canis lupus familiaris. A sub-species of Canis lupus. They can say it about dogs but the human issue … off limits!


“And remember, for every person that says, “we all bleed red” I say unto you, “so do pigs.” Are you a pig? For that matter, would you fuck a pig? LOL.”


On the serious level, I refer you to the above paragraphs. On the comedic level, it depends on how well she struts her stuff. LOL.


“This is one thing you and I will never come to agree on. I care too much for my Aryan brothers and sisters to let them fall to oblivion.”


Perhaps so. But my main statement is that it is not a subject that I have spent time studying. Whether I will, I don’t know. As such, I will listen to your point of view and comment little as my knowledge in the area is limited. I cannot say whether you are right or wrong accordingly, but I will listen and learn from you and store it away for future reference.  I, like you, pick my subjects and my arguments carefully.  I will ask though, and it will probably be the one line that riles you – why are the “Aryan brother and sisters” any more important, or so important? It reeks slightly of arrogance and superiority (which is highly subjective). I know that ending on that will, I am quietly confident, leave you with a major retort.
I don’t wish to continue the back and forth though as I am sure that we are intelligent enough to know roughly where we both are coming from. I am always interested in hearing your opinion though as it is the subject that you are passionate about. It’s why I try to keep abreast of your vignettes and broadcasts, though my time is limited (I am not dying … at least not for a while I hope).  “In the end, it’s not the years in your life that count. It’s the life in your years.”  Abraham Lincoln
Cheers back at yah.


Shaun replies to Brian here:

“I never said it was a bailout.”


You might not have said it’s a bailout, but that’s what you are saying when you make excuses using evolution as your scape goat, when you look at the grand scheme of things.


“I have had very long winded discussions about this at times and am incensed by the forced “equality” that we experience in the world and indeed our country but I do see a much larger picture underneath it all; and it may be different to yours.”


You’re right Brian, it is very different to mine.  I don’t see how anybody can be incensed by forced equality, but then say there is a bigger picture that should allow that forced equality because that’s essentially what you’re saying here.  At least without a detailed explanation as to what you mean by this.


“Again, I never spoke of the ramifications in the modern world of such an evolutionary trait.”


The ramifications have been the same, whether it be BC or the modern world, as long as jews have been involved.  And I use BC so that people catch my meaning.  The jews have been kicked out of every major country and/or nation all over the entire world, because of this.  Are we going to say that this is all due or not at all due to an evolutionary trait?  Or in the case that somebody believes in God, that it’s a religious trait?  Or perhaps we should call it an evolutionary or religious flaw?  Either way, aren’t we indeed speaking of the ramifications even if indirectly?  Maybe I am catching you on a technicality here, I don’t know, but I thought that’s where you were going.


“I simply stated that we are naturally suspicious and for good reason.”


Yeah, because of the known ramifications.


“However, the ongoing survival of a species in the ancient world is entirely different to that of one in the modern world. We no longer need to look for “tigers” hiding in the scrub, though you feel that other “tigers” are lying in wait. And perhaps you are correct.”


This is subjective to what country you’re living in of course.  People are eaten by tigers in the modern world everyday, but I know what you are saying.  And I know I am correct.  You have admitted yourself on multiple occasions that jews are indeed controlling our every move.  And I don’t need to prove that’s what they are doing any longer, because now they freely come out and admitting it.  See one of my latest productions on this subject here.


“Again, it is just not my current area of study. But I was speaking about species, not race. And I am sure you will take me to task on this contentious issue but I reiterate that I am not following that line at present so it is not something I feel a need to justify or for that matter follow-up. I am sorry if I will not prolong the discourse in this area at present. Perhaps another time. I really have not formed an opinion on it yet.
Note: I do extend this further down.”


OK.


“I never mentioned “white man [being] less capable than” anyone. Due to evolution or for any other reason. And I see many things built and designed by many people. That’s all I have to say on that matter.”


No, but you allude to it.  By recognising that we are indeed becoming extinct as white people and then using evolution as your excuse for where the different races are at today, you’re more than alluding to it in fact.  And why do you see it as OK?  Because you “see a bigger picture underneath”.  I ask you again, how is it that evolution left white man out of it’s equation?  Are we to believe that evolution designed jews to wipe white man out?  And as for many things designed by many people, allow me to introduce you to the fact that the black man still has not reinvented the wheel without the help of white man and just because the Asian races improve on white mans designs, does not mean they designed it.  It also does not mean that they designed anything of worth before they were introduced to white mans ingenuity.  For example German Engineering.


“Yes, based on my limited knowledge of the subject, I can agree that there are serious issues occurring in Sudan and obviously there are deep underlying causes. What they are I can only surmise as once again it is not my area of study. Although it may be down the track.”


Well I am very educated on what is happening in Sudan, due to having been kept up-to-date by Ed Lyons newsletters and the Persecution Project Foundation newsletters in general since I interviewed Ed back in 2010 and let me tell you that serious issues is not the word.  The savages there are always either one side of the spectrum or the other.  Savage to kill or savage to survive and the only way they haven’t killed each other off yet, is because white man stepped in.  Ed and the boys are over there right now building wells for them and saving them from themselves as usual.  And they have not designed, nor reinvented almost anything over there.  Whilst you are lucky to find that so called African-American negroids invented a piece of shaped rubber for the already invented broom handle (and then claimed they invented the entire broom during black history month) the people of Sudan, due to having fuck all anything to do with white man, couldn’t even dream of doing that.  But hey, if you head on over there to help Ed and the boys build some wells, you can get your nipples pierced for free.  OR if you’re into that kind of thing, you can be brutally raped by the Janjaweed (translation: devils on horseback) also entirely for free.


“I did touch on this in the above retort. But I will answer your referral to our previous conversations. I, as a researcher and a previous amateur herpetologist notice that there are sub-species which naturally occur within nature. A prime example is the Australian water dragon Intellagama lesuerii. There are two sub-species – the Eastern water dragon (Intellagama lesuerii lesuerii) and the Gippsland water dragon (Intellagama lesuerii howittii). They are similar to look at and to the untrained eye can appear to be one and the same. But they are not. The Gippsland is larger overall, has slightly different colouration etc. They can interbreed, and do so naturally where their geographical ranges overlap, resulting in hybrids.”


What you call evolution and others call God, (I have my own take on this altogether but thats a whole other story) have been known to naturally breed many good things, but your lizard (dragon) that was created through natural sub-species breeding, did not come out retarded.  It didn’t come out like the Pekingese, looking like it has been hit in the face with a tire iron and nor did it come out with cardiovascular errors.  Or just plain not being able to breathe because of that fucked up pug arse nose it has and this is because it wasn’t force bred by humans as we often are thanks to the jews and their Talmudvision.  Whatever designed us or whatever part your evolution played in sub-species existence, knew what it was doing.  Now take a look at what happens when you breed an abbo with a white person.  The intelligence of the white person is halved and I know you might want to play the “glass half empty, glass half full” charade here and say, “well, it made the abbo more intelligent”, but this is not OK with me because it is at the expense of the white man.  You know what I am saying because you have again, agreed in the past.


“There are genetic differences between people of different race, though insignificantly small and in the scientific community nobody, that treasures their career or reputation, will discuss it in detail (Any scientist worth his salt will not lie, he will simply not publicly discuss these subjects). They are scientifically and statistically insignificant though and the diversity of genetic variety within the African races themselves is significantly large. Now, sub-species can have small genetic differences, similar to race, or large ones of major significance. Sub-species usually evolve separately due to significantly different geographical environment and climate. Black skin is resistant to the sun’s rays and therefore is better at surviving the harsh African savannahs or Australian outback etc. Though these differences can be interpreted as no more than alleles. Can I get any scientist to go on record and say that “yes, some races could be construed as a separate sub-species”? No. It is taboo! Career suicide! Have they expressed this to me in private? Yes, quite a few have, although they all point out that it’s almost insignificant.”


Having so called “insignificant differences” for instance between the Aryan and Asian races does not mean that it’s good to be breeding with each other, due to the fact that somebody is losing out, as stated above with the “glass half empty” example.  And there are MANY scientists out there that agree with me, but I am in the same boat you are, where they don’t want to have to lose their career over saying it out loud.  In fact the only scientist that was ever game enough to come on the show, was Dr. David Evans of Science Speak and that’s only because he retired early to be able to discuss taboo topics.


“My opinion – Humans have evolved in geographically different conditions and have therefore evolved to survive said conditions resulting in minor sub-species. Genetically almost identical but different enough to be classified separately. Still all human none-the-less. Intelligence is a whole other line though and it is another subject that is highly controversial BUT neuroscientists are moving in leaps and bounds in this area and I would hazard to guess that many of the answers will be revealed in our lifetimes. Even the word intelligence is highly subjective. But I have moved on from this subject also and will hold to my original opinion until other evidence comes to the fore.”


You see, when you start on the whole “dark skin because it’s hot” theory I have to totally disembark because I have researched so much outside of evolution and the God dilemma that I would have to go off into some type of diatribe about genetic splicing and such, done by something not of this world.  It would be criminal of both of us not to consider everything.  You see, I, unlike you, (and I mean no condescension in saying this) do not put all of my eggs in one basket.  It’s too hard for me to be the priest, where he reads the King James and says, “That’s it right there.  That’s what I believe in.”  Without considering anything else.  It’s too hard for me to be the Richard Dawkins that read the works of Stephen Hawkings but never considered Tsarions Atlantis, Alien Visitation and Genetic Manipulation.  And I have way more faith in the latter, than I do the first two.


” I will ask though, and it will probably be the one line that riles you – why are the “Aryan brother and sisters” any more important, or so important? It reeks slightly of arrogance and superiority (which is highly subjective). I know that ending on that will, I am quietly confident, leave you with a major retort.
I don’t wish to continue the back and forth though as I am sure that we are intelligent enough to know roughly where we both are coming from. I am always interested in hearing your opinion though as it is the subject that you are passionate about. It’s why I try to keep abreast of your vignettes and broadcasts, though my time is limited (I am not dying … at least not for a while I hope).  “In the end, it’s not the years in your life that count. It’s the life in your years.”  Abraham Lincoln”


Why are my Aryan Brothers and Sisters more important?  If you had to ask that, then you have answered all of my questions and I have no more to ask you, with no disrespect intended.  My Aryan Brothers and Sisters are more important than Asians, Blacks, Latinos, Mexicans etc, the same way my kids are more important than my next door neighbours kids.  They are my family and are of my ilk.  They are of my blood, my moral high and low ground.  My very moral existence.  And for the same reason your Filipino Mrs married you as a white man instead of one of her own…  Because we are superior.  As for being superior, we as white men are, which is another reason I look after my Aryan races.  I whole heartedly concur with Commander Rockwell, Hitler and people, such as Dr. William Pierce, William John Beattie and so many other great men that helped continue the fight for White Western Civilisation for that very reason and I am more than happy to be arrogant about that.

I don’t think that a back and forth is needed.  I thank you for your time and I hope you learned something from this, just as I have.

Thanks for being brave.


So there you have it Ladies and Gents.  It’s 2:18 AM here in Australia and I am somewhat tired, so if I missed a word here or there I am sure you can fill in the gaps and understand what I was saying.  I will proof read it on the morrow.

Stay well and don’t be shy in adding your view points.

SS.

sudan

Above:  Sudan Darfur

Below:  Cottage in Australia

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One thought on “A Brother-To-Brother Debate

  1. …there simply are…”other races & nations of people on the Earth”; …and…history proves that one race has out-performed the other races consistently…

    This race, the white race, has reaped the rewards of their accomplishments, but only unto the jealousy & ire of lower races who are not only not satisfied with our SHARING of our prosperity and our goodwill, but have now found it necessary to take the Jews money, and do all they can to knock the winning race out of the competition altogether through both crime at the street level, and, corruption & crime(government FORCE) at the highest levels.

    Getting whites to kill each other through two World Wars seemed like a masterful plan, but as is the white man’s instinctive nature, he STUDIED the causes of it, the wars of history past, and found out the filthy Jew has always been behind the propaganda, the bribery, the selective enforcement of various “laws”, and the toppling of, then subsequent imposition of various mad men that would cook the pot until it boiled over.

    If history is cyclical, the white man will take up this righteous cause, behind(once again) a single digit minority of leaders who well understand what they’ve been ‘cooking up’ for decades to specifically destroy the Jews #1 enemy; we’ll kick their ass, they’ll go into hiding again…we just have to(once again) make it deliberate public policy in our white lands to publish their crimes, and go forward with the recommendations of how the ‘others’ ALLOWED to live in our land be punished & controlled if they simply cannot behave or contribute to the best of their ability, and our expectations.

    We pioneered it, we built it, and if you’re so selfish & stupid as to take ZERO pride in that, or, you’re content to only worry about your own ass, legacy, dynasty, family to the willful destruction of your fellow whites, then you too can get the f**k out with the rest of those who have no respect, not gratitude and appreciation for WHO brought you here, and HOW we came to be on top of the food chain!

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